fight. >> ken, when people say, as jonathan jusdid, that paul ryan should be unleashed, he was unleashed before the aarp conferce where he took his 78ear-d moer hs we s w believes about medicare and they booed and abused him throughout his spee. i mean, he's off the leash there. what's wrong with that? >> well, i mean, that would be some conservatives who are arguing for more of a -- a poa romneyizing of paul as ryan. those bolder ideas, popular for some on the conservative base, definitely bold, are nonetheless going to attract some criticism, as they did in this situation. and they would, i think, probably his srtwo saat tth bad with the good. nonetheless, we're seeing very little of really a chance for him to even get to that point where his ideas are being debated on their merits.